IDESG Newsletter #14

Pivot to Virtual Plenary Showcases 

Successes of the IDESG


The IDESG made the quick decision to move to a Virtual Plenary rather than cancel the meeting altogether in light of the government closure. A robust virtual meeting was held because IDESG members pitched in to volunteer satellite locations for in-person small groups while the Secretariat adapted the technology to meet as scheduled on October 16-18, 2013. Thank you to Adam Madlin and Symantec; Bill Rutledge and the Smart Card Alliance; Jim Barnett and AARP; and Dazza Greenwood and MIT for volunteering their facilities and making arrangements to accommodate in-person attendees on short notice.



The starting times of each segment are listed below. 

DAY 1 - Wednesday, October 16


OPENING OF GENERAL SESSION - [Recording Start Time: Bob: 0:00 Peter: 10:30]


At 1:30 p.m. on October 16, Bob Blakley, Plenary Chair opened up the 6th Plenary Meeting with an Overview of the Plenary Agenda. Peter Brown, Management Council Chair then followed with a recap of the process that led up to the vote for the incorporation of the IDESG as a nonprofit corporation. Brown noted that during the last online plenary on September 18, Kim Little presented the initial recommendation from the Management Council endorsing incorporation. During that meeting a number of valid points were made, and Bob instituted a process for Plenary members to post comments and questions for response by the Management Council  and for appropriate changes in the draft documents before the ballot was opened. Brown said, "We took this work very seriously, there was an extensive discussion over issues raised by members so that when the ballot was opened, we were able to include with the ballot an explanation of where we stood and a disposition of comments and responses. I was pleased because the way this was handled shows a level of organizational maturity, that issues were raised and addressed and comments were taken into account before voting was open."




The U.S. Postal Service remained open so participants were able to learn about the new Federal Cloud Credential Exchange (FCCX) Pilot from Douglas Glair, Manager of Digital Partnerships & Alliances at the Postal Service. He provided an informative explanation of how the FCCX program accelerates NSTIC and FICAM by allowing agencies to securely interact with a single "broker" to authenticate consumers. There were many questions for Mr. Glair which can be viewed on the chat transcriptDownload the FCCX Pilot Presentation.   




Next was the much anticipated Strategic Planning Presentation and Discussion presented by Wendy Hagen and Arisbe Gardner. Download Strategic Planning Presentation. There were many thoughts and questions raised during this presentation. As a result, you are invited to send your suggestions, comments, and feedback to Jim Barnett, Management Council Consumer Advocate Delegate and chair of the Communications and Outreach Subcommittee. 


To make it easiest to compile the feedback, please follow some simple suggestions: 

  • Indicate whether it addresses the basic concepts that were presented or goes more to specific wording of draft language for mission, vision, and value proposition
  • While the feedback loop never closes, this round of feedback is requested no later than Friday, November 1
  • A specific request to Committee Chairs and their members: please review the draft value proposition and think about how that value proposition applies to your particular sectors or interests
  • To IDESG members who work for big companies, please send Jim your companies' regular press contacts so they can be alerted and able to integrate IDESG's messaging into their own
  • Please send your input to AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Thank you!
Bob Blakley then closed the day with an overview of the next day's committee breakout sessions including the locations of satellite meeting sites along with times and remote access information. 
DAY 2 - Thursday, October 17


To best facilitate the move to an Online Plenary Meeting, most breakout sessions were held on Thursday, October 17. 




In the morning, Don Thibeau, called the International Coordination Committee to order for its first meeting since electing Colin Wallis as Vice Chair. The Committee is now in the final stages of determining a recurring meeting schedule that accomodates as many country's time zones as possible. This is quite a task considering members span the entire globe.


The Functional Model group was unique in the fact that it had almost as many in person attendees (approx. 20) meeting together at the Symantec offices as it had virtual attendees (approx. 25). During this meeting the group discussed Functional Model planning, objectives, timeline, and goals. They also reviewed and discussed the Conceptual Model. Their current plan is to start with the Conceptual Model and document possible NSTIC functional model types and examine what elements are included. Next steps include working on Functional Model goals and milestones and forming small teams for deliverables.


The Financial Services Committee also rescheduled their weekly meeting, normally held on Tuesdays at 11:00 a.m. ET, to accommodate the Online Plenary schedule. 




After lunch the Privacy Coordination Committee and the Policy Coordination Committee held breakout sessions with all remote attendees. 


Many of the group at Symantec who attended the Functional Model Meeting stayed for the Trust Framework and Trustmark Workgroup Meeting that followed. Key items on the agenda were a Discussion of Survey structure led by Jack Suess and further work on TFTM 01-02 (An Approach to Interim ID Ecosystem) - a structured discussion on the nature and characteristics of the "Interim" ID Ecosystem led by Andrew Hughes. 




During the afternoon, most Plenary attendees opted to attend the Joint Security, Standards, Privacy, TFTM, and Attributes AHG Meeting that was held at Symantec. This meeting featured a presentation by Ken Klingenstein on the Periodic Table of Trust Elements, a presentation by Dave Coxe on the Business Model Implications to the Identity Ecosystem, and a discussion on the Identity Ecosystem Framework Draft Terms of Reference led by Dazza Greenwood. 


In addition to this large breakout, the Healthcare Committee had a meeting at the American Medical Association office building in Washington, DC and a joint meeting of the Business Plan and Communications & Outreach Subcommittees of the Management Council also met.


The day concluded with a Chairs Meeting and Debrief. 


DAY 3 - Friday, October 18 




Day 3 began with report outs from most of the committees or working groups that met on Thursday. Details of these reports can be found by downloading each presentation. 


Security Committee, Taxonomy AHG, and Functional Model AHG - 2:30

Trust Framework and Trustmark Committee - 14:30 

Use Case Ad Hoc Group - 59:45

Policy Coordination Committee - 1:08:15

  • Presented by Jim Williams
  • The Policy Committee has been meeting with several large organizations that are not currently participating in the IDESG to answer the question, "Are there policy incentives that the IDESG can work on that might cause you to join?" This is a work in progress. The committee has met with some organizations and have some still to contact. They have received some good feedback after discussing topics like liability protections and business models, but the committee does not want to give a complete report out until the task is finished. The committee expects to do that at the January Plenary Meeting.

International Coordination Committee - 1:11:20 

Healthcare Committee - 1:20:15

  • Presented by Dr. Tom Sullivan, Chair
  • During their meeting on 10/17, the Healthcare Committee focused on what is going to happen since the VA and VA Healthcare is part of the FCCX program. It was helpful that Doug Glair explained on 10/16 that they are just exchanging credentials in the pilot, the actual transmission of protected healthcare information is a different story and the USPS is not involved in that. 
  • Sullivan brought up a press release about the improper exposure of healthcare records in the VA healthcare system. News Report VA Identity/Privacy Breaches.docx and the recent release of a final draft of a LOA paper by Edna Boone. LOA Simplified 800-63-2.pdf 
  • The committee also discussed the perplexing problem of multiple identities for the healthcare industry.

Communications & Outreach Subcommittee - 1:39:15 

Privacy Coordination Committee - 1:42:45

  • Presented by Jim Elste
  • The Privacy Committee is divided into 4 Subcommittees:
  • Membership and Outreach Subcommittee - Led by Debbie Deiner. Their focus is on increasing the participation in the Privacy Committee. DRAFT PCSC Outreach Document (v.5).pdf
  • Proactive Privacy Guidance Subcommittee - Led by Jay Stanley. - They take a proactive position on privacy matters that we should be aware of because Privacy is a dynamic discipline. 
  • Privacy Evaluation Methodology (PEM) Subcommittee - Led by Stuart Shapiro. They are working on improvements to the PEM, including a timeline for incorporating feedback. 
  • Evaluation Subcommittee - Led by Jim Elste. This group applies their expertise in the execution of the PEM. 

NEW BUSINESS - 2:06:40
In the time allotted to New Business, Kaliya Hamlin brought up the Issue of Diversity(2:10:50)Download Presentation.The topic of User Experience was raised by Ann Racuya-Robbins (2:29:00), and the topic of Preserving IDESG Balance and Multi-Stakeholder Nature was raised by Dazza Greenwood (2:45:45). There were many comments and questions to these new business items that can be found in the chat transcript
Since the Government Shutdown was no longer in effect, Jeremy Grant, NSTIC National Program Office (NPO) Director was able to give an NPO report to the group (3:00:45). Peter Brown followed with recommendations for engagement going forward with strategic planning, these same recommendations are listed above in the Strategic Planning section of Day 1 (3:14:45). Peter also discussed the schedule for incorporation, should the Management Council's recommendation be approved during the open ballot (Addendum: which closed that day and was approved). Download Peter's Presentation

Kay Chopard Cohen, IDESG Executive Director closed the meeting with a brief presentation (3:36:45) of plans for the 7th Plenary Meeting in Atlanta, GA. Download Presentation or see details below. 
7th Plenary Meeting Details

January 14-16, 2014

Georgia Tech Research Institute Conference Center

250 14th Street, NW, Atlanta, Georgia 30318 


Find more details such as the Tentative Agenda, Hotel Options, and Sponsorship Opportunities at



Ten Use Cases Ready for Committee Review

The Standards Coordination Committee (SCC) is pleased to announce that ten use cases have been reviewed by the Use Case Ad Hoc Group and are ready for Committee Review.  These use cases are listed on the  Use Cases page of the IDESG wiki.  Committees and stakeholders are invited to review and comment on the use cases listed as being in Committee Review stage of the use case lifecycle.


Each use case in the committee review stage has a discussion tab at the top of the page. Click this tab then click the "Post a comment on the discussion page" button to post your comment. Please use this feature to add comments to the discussion page of the use case.  As comments are compiled, the SCC will work with use case contributors to review and resolve them.  


In order to achieve the Committee goals for this calendar year, the Use Case Ad Hoc Group asks that committees and stakeholders provide their comments by 11/30/2013 (ed: 45d from 10/16).


They will be adding Use Cases to the Committee Review process, so please expect updates to the Use Case Catalog.  A couple of reminders will be sent while the review process is underway and links to the current list of Committee Review use cases during this time.  Please note that you can review the current comments on use cases on the wiki discussion page for each, so readers can be aware of what other reviewers have said.


Your feedback is appreciated! 


Please contact the UCAHG chair, Scott Shorter ( or Cathy Tilton ( if you have any questions.


Thank you,

Cathy Tilton

Chair, Standards Coordination Committee


IDESG Members Endorse The Incorporation of the IDESG as a Nonprofit Corporation

On October 18, 2013, IDESG members endorsed the recommendation of the IDESG Management Council to incorporate the IDESG as a nonprofit corporation with an overwhelming majority (94%) voting "Yes" to support the incorporation. In accordance with the recommendations, Articles of Incorporation were filed today (October 21, 2013) with the Commonwealth of Virginia's State Corporation Commission. A copy of the official documents filed can be reviewed below:

ATTENTION COMMITTEES! Update the entire IDESG on your progress in the next newsletter by emailing